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PostSubject: The Inconsistency Of Morality And Ethics   Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:46 pm

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: lacking consistency: as a: not compatible with another fact or claim <inconsistent statements> b: containing incompatible elements <an inconsistent argument> c: incoherent or illogical in thought or actions : changeable d: not satisfiable by the same set of values for the unknowns <inconsistent equations> <inconsistent inequalities>


Does the existence of social hypocrisy (social inconsistencies) negate the entire existence of morality and ethics as non-existing altogether?

There are times where somthing is so inconsistent that it cannot exist at all.

There are times where a subject's inconsistency negates it's very presence altogether into nothingness.
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PostSubject: Re: The Inconsistency Of Morality And Ethics   Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:57 pm

That's a non-sequitur. There is no presumption that everyone actively chooses to act ethically. When people do elect to act ethically it is consistent, or at least the algorithms used for ethical reasoning are consistent, but the product will be different because the basis of ethics is human preference. However, ethical reasoning does consist of universal principles which are useful for inferences into social conduct, therefor they certainly exist. The existence of unethical people has nothing to do with the usefulness of ethics.
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PostSubject: Re: The Inconsistency Of Morality And Ethics   Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:09 am

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That's a non-sequitur. There is no presumption that everyone actively chooses to act ethically. When people do elect to act ethically it is consistent, or at least the algorithms used for ethical reasoning are consistent, but the product will be different because the basis of ethics is human preference. However, ethical reasoning does consist of universal principles which are useful for inferences into social conduct, therefor they certainly exist. The existence of unethical people has nothing to do with the usefulness of ethics.

Morality and ethics judges everybody therefore if it can judge everyone I'm assuming everyone must actively behave in a moral or ethical manner in order for everyone to be judged in the first place.

Are you saying morality and ethics can judge everybody but when it comes to the presumption that everyone actively chooses to act morally or ethically doesn't exist?

So let's see here when it comes to judgement everyone is liable to punishment through someone's narrow subjective opinion of right and wrong but for some odd reason we should not presume that everyone actively choose to act morally or ethically.

What's inconsistent with this picture?

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the basis of ethics is human preference.

And yet when it comes to judgement human preference kinda gets thrown to the way side in that judgement includes everybody doesn't it?

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However, ethical reasoning does consist of universal principles which are useful for inferences into social conduct, therefor they certainly exist.

It includes universals yet we should not presume that everyone actively chooses to act morally or ethically.

( interesting.)

What universals are you talking about?

In order to understand morality or ethics what universals should we be concerned about?

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The existence of unethical people has nothing to do with the usefulness of ethics.

Perhaps for it's usefulness of controlling others however the absence of everybody acting moral or ethical combined with the hypocrisy of morality and ethics does show that the foundation of such beliefs is built upon a very inconsistent foundation.

That's what this thread is discussing.



Do you know what a logical inconsistency is?

Let me throw you an example:

Sim is cleverer than Jim. Jim is cleverer than Tim. Tim is cleverer than Sim.

Let's all go to the football game tomorrow. My wife doesn't like football. I know you're busy. We'll all enjoy ourselves.



Now understanding all the inconsistencies of morality and ethics how are they any different?

How is morality and ethics not logically inconsistent?
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PostSubject: Re: The Inconsistency Of Morality And Ethics   Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:55 pm

Here is a great example of understanding the logical inconsistency of morals and ethics so that one later on can then realize for themselves that the distinction from what is moral in contrast to what is considered immoral is an illusion that does not exist casted by those who would call themselves righteous to begin with.

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In order to show that murder is immoral we in the moral justice system are going to sentence the defendant to execution. ( Murder.)

Can you see the logical inconsistency of that statement?

What is hypocrisy when it comes to morality and ethics? Hypocrisy roughly translates to the logical inconsisties of morality and ethics.

This why moral and ethics philosophers or socialists stray away from the topics of inequality along with hypocrisy because the logical inconsistency of it all jeopardizes what they are arguing for.
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PostSubject: Re: The Inconsistency Of Morality And Ethics   Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:01 am

More example of logical inconsistencies within morality and ethics:

We live in a inequal world where there is no denying that although it is important that you treat others equally.

Murder is not tolerated in society although today we honor our soldiers who we are about to be send off to combat and war to defend the homeland.
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