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PostSubject: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:02 am


ASHKAN SAHIHI: CUM SERIES

Philosophy of the Facial:

what is the meaning of the "facial cumshot?"

The following is an overview of the prevailing views on the meaning of the "facial cumshot," specifically: the time-line theory, and the degradation theory. Both of these accounts are however somewhat lacking, and so, two other theories: that the facial is related to identity and to substance, will be discussed.

Let us begin by introducing and defining the topic. Simply put, a "facial cumshot," is when one person ejaculates on another's face. This concept has been popularized by the pornographers, where it is a sub-class of the "money shot." A search in Google, reveals more than one-million links where this term appears. We can therefore conclude that facials are of rather some interest to many persons. Oral sex appears on Ancient Greek vases, and indeed must be older than history or even humanity itself, however, the facial only gained popularity in pornography about twenty years ago; and there is only a tiny amount of material available which seriously considers the deeper meaning of the facial, despite it's having become a mainstream concept, particularly following the episode of Sex and the City in which the question is asked,

"Do you let your husband ejaculate on your face?"

Time-line Theory

Let us begin with the weaker, and shallower, of the two theories which states: the facial marks the end of a sexual encounter, which in pornography would otherwise be devoid of chronology.

"The C-Shot is proof positive of a male climax which (literally) consummates every sexual act in every sexual scene. The C-Shot, then, is the 'end-game' of pornography."

This theory however really only has validity when the facial is considered within the category of pornography.

Degradation Theory

The theory that a facial is degrading is a popular interpretation:

"There's something demeaning about it. I don't know what. That's just my take."

In the case of fetishes, it is very much the case that: no one knows who has not been there. Just as only latex fetishists can understand the special attraction of latex, and only pedophiles are not abhorred by the idea of sexual intimacy with a child, so too with the facial, to understand it's meaning, we should consider what the actual fetishists say:

"I try for the eye cause I feel that is the most degrading...."

"A couple of times I did it in an effort to be...hmmm. Shall we say not nice?"

This theory is highly associated with feminist critique. The theory runs that, a woman is degraded and humiliated, even suppliant, when the man ejaculates on her. This seems sound, and substances other than semen which are used in a similar manner would tend to confirm this view. Obviously, it can not be disputed that there is some element of truth in this analysis. However, firstly, neither the person ejaculating need be a man, nor the person being ejaculated on need be a woman:

"Cumming is when female ejaculate leaves your urethra and sprays your partner all over the face. Haha."

"Prior to August of 1995, no video store in the province of Ontario was allowed to rent or sell any XXX movie containing scenes involving facial ejaculation--that is to say, of a male ejaculating on a woman's face. This was considered by the Ontario Film Review Board to be morally degrading to women (according to 'community standards'). The story in homosexual pornography was a little different, however. Quite often, gay customers would inform me that the movies they had watched prior to August of 1995 contained scenes of men ejaculating on the faces of other men. Yet these scenes were often not censored."

And secondly, not every one sees being facialized as degrading:

"Boyfriend does it sometimes. I like it because its a turn on for him. Not degrading at all for me."

So, although there is undoubtedly a strong element of domination, degradation and humiliation involved in the facial, there is likely a deeper meaning.

(Possession

Since the time when this article was originally written, it has come to my attention that a further meaning of the facial is possession. The facial has a meaning similar to a dog marking territory. Some readers of this essay have mentioned to the effect, if I cum on her face, no other man will want to even kiss her, thus she becomes mine.)

Identity

This quote asks a further question:

"I think the facial thing in porn probably just started for the same reason you almost never see a guy not pull out...it's a visual of the climax.Yeah, but why the face? I mean tits, ass, belly, wherever is just as good a visual as the face."

Indeed, there is some special reason... why the face?

"Face" is defined in the dictionary as "...the front part of the head...," eyes, nose and so on, but another part of the primary definition is: "...the face as a means of identification: <would know that face anywhere>...." The face is a very special thing in the human experience.

"Something about a person's face - the domain of their eyes, their "essence" - remains the most intimate and personal aspect of them."

"It's because your face is the thing you use most to interact with your lover. You talk out of your face. You kiss with your face. Your eyes are in your face. You... well, you get the idea. It's the seat of your personality (well, hopefully, at least). Your body is pressed into the service of your personality, so to have someone come on your face, is like them pressing your personality into the service of their body."

But unlike a scene of a male ejaculating on an innocuous part of the female anatomy, the face differs because it represents identity....

Perhaps this still relates to the degradation theory: when humiliation is personal, it is so much more intimate, than when carried out against the "faceless."

Substance

There is a further issue however that no literature directly discusses, it is that of substance. Semen is neither solid nor is it void, in fact, it is not really a pourable liquid either. It is thick and sticky and formless. In the section of Being and Nothingness titled "Existential Psychoanalysis," Sartre discussed that these honey-like substances have a great importance for the what it is of being and also nothingness. Melting is a dissolution of a being, and also, as though from some primordial soup, the gooey or slimy is from which being forms. The genitive power of semen is of course quite literal. As per the facial, and especially in the sub-class: bukkake: the facialized person is "transformed" from a human being with definite form, into something gross and without definite identity. It is as thought, from before to after, the face has melted, not only is this the climax or end in a total ontological sense of a change of being, but also, this destruction of form and identity is an ultimate humiliation.

"Of bodies chang'd to various forms, I sing...." -Ovid, Metamorphoses, Book 1

"We obliterate faces...." -Qur'an, The Women 4.47


Bibliography

Qur'an
Numerous forum threads
Ovid, Metamorphoses
Sartre, Being and Nothingness
Ashkan Sahihi


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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:33 am

Your interpretations seem quite accurate as far as I can tell; here is what I think, in order:

1) Ownership

When a male cums on the face of another, it is first & foremost a marking of territory. However, it runs deeper than that, all the way down to the core of essence itself, Identity (as you have pointed out). After a woman has her face cummed-on, it would be reprehensible in every way, shape-or-form for another male to kiss her mouth (which is where the notion of Love originates). The cum of the Alpha Male (the one who stole her virginity, or, "dignity") has already been there and marked his territory. If another man then kisses her, he is kissing the Alpha Male as well. Thus, if a woman has her face cummed-on, then she owes her complete self to the man that did this to her. This is a mark of the 'sloven', the slave.


2) Degradation

Similar to pissing on another person's face, cumming or pissing on another person's face is degrading insofar as it is moving toward a complete ownership of essence. In other words, it's not merely enough for the male to claim ownership, he feels he must completely dominate in her a way to remove all of her shame, becoming 'shameless' (again, 'sloven'). I translate it as this: "You are a shit. And, although the shit is a pleasurable one, it is one a plan to flush down the toilet and glad to be rid of. I never want to see it again." This actually happens when you consider the slut/whore, who is used for her body. The man fucks her, cums on her face, and then plans to never see her again. He has exercised his futility over a lesser human being. He is finished.


The fact that this sex act gets mimicked elsewhere is the result of an emulation of a power-relationship. Other men want to be "Western" so that they may too own and degrade other women (or even men), nevermind the possible moral ramifications for doing so...
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:45 am

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The fact that this sex act gets mimicked elsewhere is the result of an emulation of a power-relationship. Other men want to be "Western" so that they may too own and degrade other women (or even men), nevermind the possible moral ramifications for doing so...
I just deleted out the part that you refer to here. But the very conspicuous repetition in it, as a meme, that is interesting. There is something more than the juxtapostion of a fish and a bicycle here.

The aesthetics in it is close to earthiness, Art Nouveau Style.

Connected paraphilias are significant.

There was a list of quotes to meditate on,

"God sendeth and giveth both mouth and the meat."
Thomas Tusser Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry.

"On the tongue of such an one they shed a honeyed dew (...)"
Hesiod The Theogony. Line 82.

"The fool of nature stood with stupid eyes
And gaping mouth, that testified surprise."
John Dryden (1631-1700) Cymon and Iphigenia. Line 107.

"She looketh as butter would not melt in her mouth."
John Heywood (1497?-1580?) Proverbes. Part i. Chap. x.

"A good mouth-filling (...)"
William Shakespeare (1564-1616) King Henry IV. Part I. Act iii. Sc. 1.

"Her mouth is a honey-blossom,"
William Dean Howells (1837?920) The sarcastic Fair.

"the LORD's law may be in thy mouth" Exodus 13:9

"the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up" Numbers 16:30

"And it came to pass, as she continued praying before the LORD, that Eli marked her mouth." 1 Samuel 1:12

"in the mouth of thine handmaid:" 2 Samuel 14:19

"But I would strengthen you with my mouth, and the moving of my lips should asswage your grief." Job 16:5

"And they waited for me as for the rain; and they opened their mouth wide as for the latter rain." Job 29:23

"their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue." Psalms 5:9

"they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly." Psalms 62:4

"They were not estranged from their lust. But while their meat was yet in their mouths," Psalms 78:30

"For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:" Proverbs 5:3
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:28 am

There's a second response I want to add to this; I'll try to get to it soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:33 pm

I've always found it pretty interesting on statistical data concerning a large percentage of women having fantasies of wanting to be raped and then there is of course the bondage sexual interaction between couples where women get turned on by men degrading them in several ways through submission or domination.

It's interesting stuff because publicly there is this great outcry against such social exchanges yet privately simultaneously such acts are desired,wanted, and liked.

I remember watching a conversation online once where a guy was discussing how even though a woman might be mentally inclined in not wanting to be raped how physical and biological processes within her body will compel her against her own free will in desiring the exchange of forced copulation as it happens.( Domination of biological determination over mental thought processes of choice.)

This is probally why alot of rape therapy groups for women discuss the odd feeling of pleasure derived from orgasms during a rape in that many women feel ashamed afterwards in that even though they were against being raped in the first place mentally, physically they nonetheless felt a sadistic pleasure or urge during the process.


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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:45 pm

Fool & Alexi,

You are correct to observe these contrary phenomenons...

The reason for this is that while Man sees cumming on a woman's face as Ownership & Degradation (emasculation), Woman does not necessarily see it this way. After all, her purpose in life is to pleasure the Alpha Male in order so that he does not turn his physical violence toward her. This is "emotional manipulation" and it is a passive-feminine power. She (authentically) believes she has control over the male by how she manipulates his dick. She literally points it in the right direction (toward her pussy). Because she allows the male to penetrate her (and sufficiently own & degrade her), she feels she must get something in the exchange. And she does: humiliation.

The humiliation stems from the fact that the male needs to be there and with her. Because of this physical need (to procreate/reproduce), she may then lay claim over the mental control of Man to whichever degree she chooses. Her most powerful tactics (as whispered to me through one particular female) are: attempting to demoralize the male's cock size, arguing emotionally without any awareness for logic, and when all else fails - submission to the sex act (which also puts the male in a weakened state of dependence ... on Society).

Therefore, we can conclude that the facial cum-shot may have a completely different "perspective" to it, namely, that of a woman's smothered face. While men obviously can decipher that this is Ownership & Degradation, women do not necessarily think so. They merely exist to please their (domesticated) males anyway. Feminists who attempt to argue this line of reasoning are usually/especially/socially-indoctrinated. They are usually ugly women who wish they were 'Hot' and getting their faces cummed on by Alpha Males, because they are reduced to a selection of Beta Males. And, regardless of that, it does not change the fact that the facial cum-shot may or may not be degrading in the end.....
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:45 am

In taking my last post into context is it possible for the body to desire what the conscious mind doesn't?

Could we say that the body is ruled by that which is called the subconscious that part of the mind we call instinct that manifests itself beyond the conscious or rational thinking?
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:44 am

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Could we say that the body is ruled by that which is called the subconscious that part of the mind we call instinct that manifests itself beyond the conscious or rational thinking?
The body and the mind...
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:05 pm

Alexi wrote:
The Fool wrote:
Could we say that the body is ruled by that which is called the subconscious that part of the mind we call instinct that manifests itself beyond the conscious or rational thinking?
The body and the mind...

Elaborate.
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:44 am

The Fool wrote:
Alexi wrote:
The Fool wrote:
Could we say that the body is ruled by that which is called the subconscious that part of the mind we call instinct that manifests itself beyond the conscious or rational thinking?
The body and the mind...
Elaborate.
Depersonalization; in it's very strongest form is alienation not just from the body, but from the thoughts and mind as well. A sickly feeling, loss of self identity altogether; my mind is something foreign, nothing any longer is me, my own thoughts and volition come from where? and also mind is an incomprehensible and absurd substance, occuring, happening, like a tree or a puddle, completely a part of nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Philosophy of the Facial   Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:47 am

The subconscious is the accumulation of perceived phenomena that do not register, either because the mind rejects them as dangerous or because no pattern is found in therm to make them comprehensible.

Nevertheless, they register as sensation and sensation directly affects emotion.
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