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PostSubject: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:43 pm

3. The world population growth is critical in all areas of human expansion, but it is currently most problematic in the Third World. What is the responsibility, if any, of the West to help places like Africa to downsize their population – and which political policies should in that case be applied?

OverpopulationAnother example of selective perception is the population explosion. Despite the vast range of problems related to increasing population—pollution, congestion, climate change, resource shortages, and resource wars, to name but a few—most people don't consider it worrisome that the population of our planet goes up by 211,000 people every single day! That is 77 million more people every year, which is roughly like adding the population of England, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand every year. We should be in panic mode about what to do about this, yet it is not even on the political agenda.

It is not just a problem with the developing world, which has the highest birth rate, but with developed countries as well. The U.S. has the highest growth rate of any industrialized country—mostly due to immigrants and their high birth rate. This is a disaster in the making, because when we are talking about the dangers of overpopulation the most critical factor is not sheer numbers, but carrying capacity (carrying capacity = how many people can the Earth sustain at a certain standard of living). A hundred Bangladeshis use as many resources as one American, so more Americans are potentially as bad for the planet as 100 Bangladeshis. However, people are not trees—they move around quite easily. So every Bangladeshi who moves to a developed country multiplies his effect on the planet up to 100 times. This is why immigration from poor countries to rich countries is aggravating the problem. I'm in favor of reversing population growth immediately across the board in all countries. Japan and some European countries are nearing zero population growth and this should be cheered.

An additional factor in the population explosion is the very real possibility of life extension in the near future. Every day 155,000 people die. If the death rate was reduced to near zero, and the birth rate stayed the same, we would add 366,000 people every day, instead of 211,000. Obviously, we need to face the overpopulation issue squarely. There are people, often business interests, who make claims that increasingly the population is a good thing because it grows the economy, brings in fresh, young blood, and that American ingenuity (Terrafarm Mars! rocket to the stars!) will somehow find a place to put all these people. They laugh at Malthusian predictions of global disaster going back to the 19th century. These are the rationalizations of those with an agenda backed by whoever they can fool, similar to those who claim that global warming is not human caused. We are better able to assess the state of planet and its resources today than ever before, and the consensus of unbiased sources is that we may already be exceeding the planet's carrying capacity. It hardly seems prudent to take chances with the only habitable planet we've got.

Who knows? In the long term we might be able to upload our minds into cyberspace, and discard the bodies, but as long as we still inhabit our bodies, Birth credits is the solution. A choice-based, marketable birth license plan would be fair, non-discriminatory in regards the poor, and could stop population growth immediately. People are issued half a credit, which they can combine with a partner, and they get the first child free of charge. Any more than that, they have to buy a license, which costs a tiny fraction of what it actually costs to raise a child. Because we are used to breeding without any regard for the rest of the world, birth credits at first might sound extreme. It is a vast improvement over the one child policy, however, because people who do not have children should be rewarded, and people who are well-suited to having more children should have the option to do so. The poor would benefit the most from such a plan, because they suffer the most from the effects of having too many children. Proof of this is the fact that the average household net worth in the U.S. is in inverse proportion to the number of children in the household.

The problem in most "save the world" discussions, other than the difficulty of establishing the statistical baseline in regards resources, is to get people to agree on the boundaries between individual rights and collective rights. Our collective rights are being eroded every day by the cumulative effects of individual irresponsibility, so we need universal policies that define the boundaries of these rights.

If we could all agree on using birth credits, population growth would end and we might begin to get a handle on a wide range of problems facing our species and the other species that we share the planet with. You can read more about birth credits (which I also call a marketable birth license plan) at http://www.laborsofhercules.org.
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PostSubject: Re: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:48 pm

What country are you from system-hater?
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PostSubject: Re: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:52 pm

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What country are you from system-hater?

Hahaha. Why the great country of the United States of America!
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PostSubject: Re: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:01 pm

Then you know the population in the USA is rising flat-lined, no longer exponential, correct?

And that is taking into immigration numbers... First-world countries do not necessarily-gain from population growth as do third-world countries.
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PostSubject: Re: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:24 pm

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Then you know the population in the USA is rising flat-lined, no longer exponential, correct?

Yes and no. Granted, our country has attained a level of "stability" for the enduring citizens, out of the baby boomer period, but the truth to this article lies within the problem of the "immigrant populace" that is "infecting" our country so to speak, so our population fluctuates more than anything which is what poses the problem.

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And that is taking into immigration numbers... First-world countries do not necessarily-gain from population growth as do third-world countries.

Yup, i agree here. Third world countries are more or less economically desolate countries, who's governments could care less about controlling population, hence the enormity of it. And yes, our population doesn't increase "drastically", especially due to immigration laws that some people view as immoral, but if they were not instituted our country would be overwhelmed with immigrants! however, like i stated, it fluctuates as a result.
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PostSubject: Re: A True Consequence of Modern Society   Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:55 am

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the problem of the "immigrant populace" that is "infecting" our country
Agree. Internationalism and foreign exploitation are causing a lot of suffering in the world; internationalism is probably not in-itself wicked, foreign exploitation we can fairly safely say is.

But, BE CAREFUL, because the populace has been well propagandized against what you are saying; what they here is "Racist racist racist, racist racist racist racist." There are tactical reasons to promote racism, but I would think not stratigic ones.
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