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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:36 pm

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Well if your eye specialist is right and it's pigmentation (i.e. melanin) then you can throw your retarded smoke-staining idea right out the window, jackass.

When I see the melanin show up in Obama's sclera I'll agree. In the meantime take my poop and smoke it.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:41 pm

Obama!?

How do people like you actually function in the world? The fact that you aren't dead pretty much convices me that our society is made to save idiots from themselves.

Even just yesterday, I had to grit my teeth and listen while the people around me discussed ghosts as if they were actually something that existed.. Then I had to supress my laughter and smile while listenening to a girl talking about how her books fell off a shelf and how her dvd-player started malfunctioning. All this was evidence of ghosts of course.

What a fucking world to grow up in.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:45 pm

You see there's the body and then there's the spirit or the soul....And there are other dimensions which makes it all reasonable and not insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:49 pm

Of course, it's so obvious.

Also, I know the ghosts aren't mean or will hurt me because that would make me feel bad and the ghosts don't want me to feel bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:51 pm

Don't you know?

A body cannot live without a soul....i read it in some text a deluded, old fart, once wrote after a session with the voices in his own head....he, suddenly, discovered God, in a moment of epiphany.

Miraculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:27 pm

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Obama!?

MM wrote:
Checked with an eye specialist from John Hopkins
He says pigmentation
then he cannot answer when we ask
why not Afro-Americans?

Yeah, Obama. You know the guy - our black president - the one with the nice white sclera. And also the other 25 million black Yanks with clear sclera. Those guys too. When their eyes all go yellow I ill buy the pigment exaplanation. Not a minute before.
Until then

Hot smoke burn is still top of my list.

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How do people like you actually function in the world? The fact that you aren't dead pretty much convices me that our society is made to save idiots from themselves.
Like those idiots that have have the same post posted twice.

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Even just yesterday, I had to grit my teeth and listen while the people around me discussed ghosts as if they were actually something that existed.. Then I had to supress my laughter and smile while listenening to a girl talking about how her books fell off a shelf and how her dvd-player started malfunctioning. All this was evidence of ghosts of course.
Man. you should have listen to the shit I was exposed to. Two guys with Phds sitting in the next booth. They were saying they don't need proof ghosts don't exists. They just know they don't. They kept repeating that for four hours and ten fucking minutes. Same five words over and over again "I just know they don't. I just know they don't." Can you believe that!

What a fucking world to grow up in.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:49 pm

are you feeling really comfortable here, Magnet Man?

just a doubt. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:04 pm

Why the hell would their sclera turn yellow? Should we inject pigment into their eyes? What are you talking about?

In the good ol' US of motha-fuckin' A!, populations are mixing you giant doofus. Obama is of MIXED RACE you DUMB FUCK!

In fact, it's your "explanation" (more like retarded nonsense) which would predict that people would acquire coloured sclera. You're making no fucking sense, as usual.

Don't insult me with the "our", either. He's your president. I have nothing to do with America.

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Can you believe that!

Sometimes one doesn't need evidence to think of some things as ridiculous. Certain ideas about the world have implications for other ideas and so if one has a solid understanding of something in one sense then you can draw conclusions from that and exclude other ideas as nonsense.

That, or the idea can just be stupid as hell to begin with. Like ghosts for instance.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:01 pm

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are you feeling really comfortable here, Magnet Man?

just a doubt. Rolling Eyes

Your concern is touching
On the whole the foul language
I find juvenile
and below my taste
but i realize
that even in the slums
people need help

Missionaries have to be hardy
and long suffering
when among the unwashed heathen
and veeeeeeeeeeeery long on faith,

But to tell the Truth
I'd rather be in Idaho
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:08 pm

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Your concern is touching
On the whole the foul language
I find juvenile
and below my taste
but i realize
that even in the slums
people need help

Missionaries have to be hardy
and long suffering
when among the unwashed heathen
and veeeeeeeeeeeery long on faith,

But to tell the Truth
I'd rather be in Idaho

what? you're in a mission? here?

god help you! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:44 pm

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what? you're in a mission? here?

god help you! lol!

It would be impossible without it.
Nor would he have sent me without it.
other than that I have no interest in being here.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:29 am

Fascinating film Africa Addio.

No comment re. yellowing eyes, definantely not jaundice.

MM, what were the circumstances of you saying good-bye to Africa?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:41 am

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It would be impossible without it.
Nor would he have sent me without it.
other than that I have no interest in being here.

Good luck with that then.

Tell me, what's the exact amount of slander and offense that you can bear?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:54 am

This guy's too stupid to feel ashamed or embarrassed.

He's like a stripper or a whore who takes the cat calls and the facial cumshots and re-interprets them into actions that give her value.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:25 am

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This guy's too stupid to feel ashamed or embarrassed.

He's like a stripper or a whore who takes the cat calls and the facial cumshots and re-interprets them into actions that give her value.
I do not wish to be drawn into this. However, AD, what do you know about whores and facial cumshots?

And, is it possible that you do not understand MM?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:00 am

What is the problem with dividing the world into races? -- white, black, yellow, brown, red...

Each race is derived from its origins:

White - Europe
Black - Afrika
Yellow - Asia
Brown - "Who the fuck knows?" (i.e. mixed races)
Red - Native Amerika


And as Western Science proves to us, black men are last-evolved, due to their geography and stagnation in Afrika.

Is this some kind of mystery? Is this some kind of surprise? Perhaps the Western Institution is too queer to understand this anymore...
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:45 am

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Advocatus Diaboli wrote:
This guy's too stupid to feel ashamed or embarrassed.

He's like a stripper or a whore who takes the cat calls and the facial cumshots and re-interprets them into actions that give her value.
I do not wish to be drawn into this. However, AD, what do you know about whores and facial cumshots?

And, is it possible that you do not understand MM?
Maybe I don't understand Magnetman. Maybe you could interview him and I could get to know him better.

All I know is that, in this thread, he has repeated his claim over and over that smoke produces coloured sclera and the only reasoning he has given for this is that smoke makes your eyes sting.

If I were in his position, I would feel ashamed of myself. Instead, he thinks of it as a privileged position: the degradation gets bent through some kind of narcissistic lense so in his mind he comes off as the one who can offer help or aid, the missionary who endures the discomfort (perhaps on some level even enjoys it?) in order to satisfy the master, the imaginary 'other', god. What a sicko.

I think it's similar to whores and their cumshots.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:24 am

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Maybe you could interview him and I could get to know him better.
He would be a great candidate, however, I'm almost interviewed out for this month, and I was thinking about a more adventurous interview project maybe next or next next month.

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All I know is that, in this thread, he has repeated his claim over and over that smoke produces coloured sclera and the only reasoning he has given for this is that smoke makes your eyes sting.
This is fair. The John Hopkin's idea was very sound. I searched around on the 'net myself too but I can not see any clear answer, jaundice is definitely out at there are several images, and the yellowing is totally different.

The questions about the whites of the eyes and higher-level social interaction is a good one. It can I think also be stretched a bit to ask about 'black eyes' as East-Asians describe their eye color, the pupil can not be seen, I agree that this is similar to dogs, though not all breeds.

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...the missionary who endures the discomfort (perhaps on some level even enjoys it?) in order to satisfy the master, the imaginary 'other', god. What a sicko.

I think it's similar to whores and their [facial] cumshots.
Sorry how so? For better or for worse, these are two things I do have quite a bit of experience with; my thoughts on the subject are here, Philosophy of the Facial. I suspect there is for some ladies a sort of deep intimacy to a facial cumshot; but this is not common, it is a chore, part of the job. The desire, or the expectation, of being degraded is a broad social phenomena, not particular to ladies or missionaries.

Is MM trying to satisfy God? "That thou art." Self and God are overlapping terms.

And is a john equivalent to God? Good God!
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:05 pm

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MM, what were the circumstances of you saying good-bye to Africa?
My anti-Apartheid stance. I was a senior television producer for the SABC in the early 1970's. My documentaries on the rise of black consciousness in the urban ghettos got me in trouble with the Bureau of State Security. It was House arrest or exile. After SOWETO I realized that 14 generations of white rule would collapse. I left, seeking a solution for Afrika elsewhere. That has been my mission ever since. My whole family is trapped back there.

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Tell me, what's the exact amount of slander and offense that you can bear?

Any amount, provided it is in reasonably good humor. Foul language has a place. But it is bottom line.
You don't REALLY want me to think that you are a stupid fucking cunt, do you?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:17 pm

Interesting, thank-you.

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Checked with an eye specialist from John Hopkins
He says pigmentation
This method seems sound. But, on one site I see for yellowing eyes, "65 conditions". Did this eye specialist see the image?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:20 am

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Any amount, provided it is in reasonably good humor. Foul language has a place. But it is bottom line.
You don't REALLY want me to think that you are a stupid fucking cunt, do you?

in fact i don't care

personal opinions are always biased, imperfect and vain.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:58 am

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This is fair. The John Hopkin's idea was very sound. I searched around on the 'net myself too but I can not see any clear answer, jaundice is definitely out at there are several images, and the yellowing is totally different.

The questions about the whites of the eyes and higher-level social interaction is a good one. It can I think also be stretched a bit to ask about 'black eyes' as East-Asians describe their eye color, the pupil can not be seen, I agree that this is similar to dogs, though not all breeds.
Yeah, I think it's most likely that the eye specialist got it right. It was my working hypothesis when making this thread that it was pigment that had to have been lost in other populations. The question for me now is whether the loss of it was simply an indirect consequence of a general decreased melanin level due to alternative climates or whether it was actively selected against. Good point about the pupils too.

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Sorry how so? For better or for worse, these are two things I do have quite a bit of experience with; my thoughts on the subject are here, Philosophy of the Facial. I suspect there is for some ladies a sort of deep intimacy to a facial cumshot; but this is not common, it is a chore, part of the job. The desire, or the expectation, of being degraded is a broad social phenomena, not particular to ladies or missionaries.
Yeah, I've read the thread. It's a good one.

Perhaps first I should say that I was being a bit hyperbolic and I didn't really consider all the intricacies when I made my post. Like I wasn't thinking specifically about the whore/john relationship, more whore as a general derogatory term for loose or otherwise sexually deviant women.

You're right that for whores in the technical sense (i.e. sex for money) the comparison doesn't really fit as there are other motivations to consider.

Intimacy I think is actually something we construct for ourselves out of power relationships. Intimacy has to do with a certain vulnerability. The example I use when I think of it are secrets. Telling someone a secret means putting yourself in a position of weakness as it confers upon the person you're telling it to a certain power and also puts them in a position of being special, the one who knows the secret.

Similarly, with the facial cumshot the woman allows or submits to something degrading in order to confer upon the man a certain specialness. The logic of, if I let you do this to me that means I really care for you (similarities to be found here with the Christian mindset). The domination is felt as pleasurable as it allows the woman a way to express her caring, it solidifies her power in a way. Of course, that's only one way for a person to react. There are many different reactions which shift depending on the person's particular psychology.
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Is MM trying to satisfy God? "That thou art." Self and God are overlapping terms.

And is a john equivalent to God? Good God!
Yes, if you take self as a very broad concept encompassing your whole psychic space; but, since Magnetman is (seemingly) a Christian, he does conceive of his god as a seperate identity:

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Nor would he have sent me without it.
This is precisely the imaginary 'other', that second eye inside his head which watches and see's what he does. So what I think happens is that his psychic energy, for lack of a better term, gets pooled into this part of him (like a kind of narcissism) and is then released when he does something "in line" with it, or when he acts according to it's injunctions, and he feels it as pleasurable.

For a john to be equivalent to this god, the john would only have to occupy the same place in someone's psyche.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:40 am

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Interesting, thank-you.

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Checked with an eye specialist from John Hopkins
He says pigmentation
This method seems sound. But, on one site I see for yellowing eyes, "65 conditions". Did this eye specialist see the image?

No. He was checking my eyes and I just asked him.
I rejected his answer when he could not explain why African Americans do not have the same pigmented sclera. Nothing else said here, before or since, has explained it.
Thus I remain convinced it is smoke burn.
It would seem that my first hand experience of smarting eyes inside native huts counts for nothing.

It is interesting to see how quickly the pigment explanation was latched onto.
I suspect it was the mention of a John Hopkin's specialist,
In fact the guy was just our local small town optician.

The subsequent amateur analysis of my psyche is quite amusing.

Ahh armchair philosophy, what an intimate self-satisfying masturbation it is.
The cum is messy tho.

My God is both within and without me
I see Him shining life-giving calories on me every day.
Some call Him, Sol
others, RA.
He calls us stardust
we are His seed.
We are made of the same stuff
He is the origin of our consciouness
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:57 am

blah blah blah

Don't you think I've sat next to a fireside and had my eyes sting from the smoke? The point is, so what?

Why am I even responding?

If you would read the second post I made in this thread, you would see that I had already considered melanin as a possibility. In fact, my explanation in the OP is predicated on the fact that the colouring is consitutional!

Why am I even responding?

In fact, you're the one talking about amateur analysis!

Why am I even responding?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:11 am

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Why am I even responding?

you want some fun! lol!

MM amuses you, doesn't he?

you must read his threads on ILP...
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