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PostSubject: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:40 pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4540134202583442015

The video is about the decolonialization of Africa. It's a really nice little video: wonderful commentary (the translation at least has a rather laconic/sardonic sense of humour which I enjoy), interesting scenes, great music; but it's not really the content as such that I'm focusing on here.

Something that struck me while watching the video was the eye's of the Negros, specifically the colour of their sclera. If you watch the video, you will immediately notice that it is quite dark - specked with a metallic-like yellow.

( http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/13/opinion/13tomasello.html )

It seems like correct reasoning to me to assume there would be pretty strong selection of white sclera in social situations - it definitely plays a great role in the expressiveness of the face (rolling one's eyes, intimidating staring, all sorts of things). This also fits in nicely with the Negro's lower intelligence, as more complex social interaction correlates with higher intelligence.

I find it strange that I've never really heard people talking about this.

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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:19 pm

Great video, I watched the whole thing.

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And you don't hear people talking about it, because the masses are not allowed to think nor say such things.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:48 pm

Advocatus Diaboli wrote:
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Something that struck me while watching the video was the eye's of the Negros, specifically the colour of their sclera. If you watch the video, you will immediately notice that it is quite dark - specked with a metallic-like yellow.

( http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/13/opinion/13tomasello.html )

The collapse of colonialism was inevitable, but unfortunately premature. Two more generations of colonialism were necessary in order to establish a foundation of industrial craftsmanship

That expensive mistake could spell the doom of sub-Saharan Africa.

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It seems like correct reasoning to me to assume there would be pretty strong selection of white sclera in social situations - it definitely plays a great role in the expressiveness of the face (rolling one's eyes, intimidating staring, all sorts of things). This also fits in nicely with the Negro's lower intelligence, as more complex social interaction correlates with higher intelligence.

I find it strange that I've never really heard people talking about this.


Excuse me for pricking the racist bubble.
African babies are born with the whites of their eyes unblemished. The yellowing begins almost immediately, It is the sting of smoke from endless campfires, mostly inside the confines of the hut. By puberty all are yellow.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:46 am

Well, I'm not sure if African babies are born with white sclera or not and I can't find a damn thing about it on the internet. There's a real dearth of information.

I sincerely doubt your "staining sclera" hypothesis as well. You're saying that CO2 is absorbed into the sclera or what?

In fact, I found this: http://buy1get1.org/IRDOLOGY-SCLEROLOGY.htm. Here they also claim that coloured sclera can be found in Carribean and East Indian (? An ambiguous term) populations. I don't think Carribean's sit around campfires all day.

If it's due to melanin though, then we could say that the staining simply disappeared together with our developing of white skin and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:00 pm

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Well, I'm not sure if African babies are born with white sclera or not and I can't find a damn thing about it on the internet. There's a real dearth of information.

I sincerely doubt your "staining sclera" hypothesis as well. You're saying that CO2 is absorbed into the sclera or what?

In fact, I found this: http://buy1get1.org/IRDOLOGY-SCLEROLOGY.htm. Here they also claim that coloured sclera can be found in Carribean and East Indian (? An ambiguous term) populations. I don't think Carribean's sit around campfires all day.

If it's due to melanin though, then we could say that the staining simply disappeared together with our developing of white skin and stuff.

Well when you are sure get back to me
I don't like passing on incorrect information
I was raised in Afrika
its just my common sense observation
I am not a chemist
I never set out to prove it
my own stinging eyes
every time i entered a smoke-filled hut
made it seem obvious
I will be surprised if I am wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:04 am

Its also due to health problems. If there is organ health problems the sclera shows it. Jaundice is a good example. Consider the diets there are very poor and that insects transmit disease rather quickly in Africa.

Look at the puffiness under his eyes. the discoloration on his lip, these are signs of health issues, perhaps genetic but, more likely due to environment and diet.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:33 am

There are also squint boundaries
you can see where the lower part of sclera has been partly protected
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:26 pm

Yes, that is true, but it still is not white. it is a jaundiced yellow. The ill health would make it more sucesptable to melanin staining. But i would lean more towards ilhealth then fires being the root cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:28 pm

kriswest wrote:
Yes, that is true, but it still is not white. it is a jaundiced yellow. The ill health would make it more sucesptable to melanin staining. But i would lean more towards ilhealth then fires being the root cause.

I lean my way
Not every African in afrika is sick
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:34 pm

Not every African has yellow either.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:41 pm

Have any of you folks ever compared an 'old' white shirt to a 'new' white shirt? Both are said to be white; might you agree? Now if you put white next to white and white next to brown or white next to green and white next to pink....


Just another way to look at what's white and what's wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:45 pm

Also sunshine might play a factor.....

Advocatus go and stare at the sun for a few hours.....
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:12 pm

Its all smoke anyway
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:39 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:26 pm

It's quite obviously not jaundice (the yellowing of that sickness looks entirely different). In any case, the man in the picture doesn't look unhealthy at all.

The smoke explanation still seems entirely implausible to me, given that the phenomenon has been observed in other populations which, as far as I know, do not have smoke-huts. As well, the only thing I can think of that would stain your eye in smoke is tar and I don't think that smoke from a wood fire has a high tar quantity.

And now the babbling monkey maryshelley has decided to enter the thread and vomit out some sort of stupid colour relativism, as though to imply that the eyes in the first picture are not actually yellow. Then, leaving the vomit on the ground, this cretinous abberation proceeds to shit right on top of it. Sunlight!? That is arrant nonsense.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:29 pm

When thinking about mammalian specie differentiation, I think it is important to point out this notion of white eyes.

Do dogs have white eyes? Do cats have white eyes? Do gorillas have white eyes?

Well, it is then a good assumption to posit that human mammals evolved out of dark/colored eyes at some point in time.

If blacks preclude this on an evolutionary ladder, then it only makes sense to investigate the causes based on race under the context of specie.


Advocatus may be onto something here...

Or, maybe not, I am no Scientist just yet at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:29 am

Advocatus Diaboli wrote:
It's quite obviously not jaundice (the yellowing of that sickness looks entirely different). In any case, the man in the picture doesn't look unhealthy at all.

The smoke explanation still seems entirely implausible to me, given that the phenomenon has been observed in other populations which, as far as I know, do not have smoke-huts. As well, the only thing I can think of that would stain your eye in smoke is tar and I don't think that smoke from a wood fire has a high tar quantity.

And now the babbling monkey maryshelley has decided to enter the thread and vomit out some sort of stupid colour relativism, as though to imply that the eyes in the first picture are not actually yellow. Then, leaving the vomit on the ground, this cretinous abberation proceeds to shit right on top of it. Sunlight!? That is arrant nonsense.

Yellow eyes = low intelligence vs colour relativism = offwhite

Arrant nonsense indeed.

If you are of African origin you are more at risk of chronic glaucoma and it may come on somewhat earlier and be more severe.

Just ask a friendly optician.

And if you look VERY closely at the gentleman in the photo you will see the telltale white rings around his cornea.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:01 am

The chaos seen in the documentary
Afrika Addio
filmed after the collapse of British colonialism
is an historical repeat
much like the chaos in tribal Europe
after the collapse of Rome.

Now Africa is in the midst
of her own Dark Age
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:37 pm

Whereas, by implication, the europeans and americans are enlightened?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:54 pm

maryshelley wrote:
Whereas, by implication, the europeans and americans are enlightened?
Do I detect sarcasm.

Industriaslization is an essental 3rd step
for the evolution of consciousness
Afrika has yet to get there

The collapse of colonialsm
was at least two generations premature
all we suceeded in doing
was to destroy the existing clan-based culture
before replacing it with the 4th mass shift of consciousness
into national industrialization.
hence the break down of Africa's ancient tradition
of sound social order
and the barbarism we saw in the documentary
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:44 am

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Advocatus Diaboli wrote:
It's quite obviously not jaundice (the yellowing of that sickness looks entirely different). In any case, the man in the picture doesn't look unhealthy at all.

The smoke explanation still seems entirely implausible to me, given that the phenomenon has been observed in other populations which, as far as I know, do not have smoke-huts. As well, the only thing I can think of that would stain your eye in smoke is tar and I don't think that smoke from a wood fire has a high tar quantity.

And now the babbling monkey maryshelley has decided to enter the thread and vomit out some sort of stupid colour relativism, as though to imply that the eyes in the first picture are not actually yellow. Then, leaving the vomit on the ground, this cretinous abberation proceeds to shit right on top of it. Sunlight!? That is arrant nonsense.

Yellow eyes = low intelligence vs colour relativism = offwhite

Arrant nonsense indeed.

If you are of African origin you are more at risk of chronic glaucoma and it may come on somewhat earlier and be more severe.

Just ask a friendly optician.

And if you look VERY closely at the gentleman in the photo you will see the telltale white rings around his cornea.
So what?
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:46 pm

1 + 1 = 2

yellow eyes (white rings appear at a more advanced stage) in those of afro caribbean origin = glaucoma
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:02 pm

You are trying to make 1 + 0 = 2

As far as I am aware, glaucoma doesn't colour one's sclera. Definitely not to that degree in any case.

Also I wonder if the "white rings" around his cornea are not simply reflections. If you look at his right eye (stage right), the white falls away.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:06 am

Checked with an eye specialist from John Hopkins
He says pigmentation
then cannot answer when we ask
why not Afro-Americans?

Hot smoke burn is still top of my list.
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PostSubject: Re: Addio Africa!   Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:52 am

Well if your eye specialist is right and it's pigmentation (i.e. melanin) then you can throw your retarded smoke-staining idea right out the window, jackass.
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