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PostSubject: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:58 am

Many people considering this issue and the sort of tactics that would lead to liberation would be disinclined to think that violence would be a justifiable means.

It would seem absurd to take up arms, or carry out assassinations and bombings in the name of this cause.

Or would it?

Imagine a gentleman who had been involved in a loving relationship -- but it became exposed, and taking flight from the law, he is forced into a stand-off. Knowing that an unjust prison sentence of decades awaits him if he is taken, the gentleman makes the decision, in anguish, to kill the policeman, in self-defense, escapes and re-unites with his love.

In this light, the gentleman's decision to use violence seems much less absurd --even, justified.

Now, what if the gentleman had not waited until after his affair and flight to use justified violence in self-defense, but had preempted the inevitable injustice that would come on him?

What if he had shot and killed the policeman before instead of after the affair? Would his resort to violence to defend himself from certain injustice be any less justified?

It would seem not.

And with that, what had seemed absurd, now appears reasonable and justified.

Assassinations and bombings kill dead police officers and government officials, prisons and legislatures are blasted apart.

Oh, yes; I know what you're thinking, this is absurd, your freedom, truth, justice and beauty aren't worth defending....


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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:48 am

I think violence is a necessary action devised to seek independence from others.

Always has been, always will be.
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:40 pm

Is freedom of sexual orientation and action the sort of thing worth committing violence for? Why or why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:25 pm

Ivan wrote:
Is freedom of sexual orientation and action the sort of thing worth committing violence for? Why or why not?

It's all a matter of preference. I don't see why not. People do what they want.
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:36 am

You don't worry about being consistent?

Or, about scale?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:02 am

Serge wrote:
You don't worry about being consistent?

Or, about scale?

In what way exactly?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:41 pm

Should I murder a man who is only blocking my way at a cross-walk?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:06 pm

Serge wrote:
Should I murder a man who is only blocking my way at a cross-walk?
If he is impolite, then I say yes, duel to the death.
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:15 am

Serge wrote:
Should I murder a man who is only blocking my way at a cross-walk?

Why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypothetical Consideration of the Problem of Violence and Revolution   Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:43 am

I might feel bad about it?
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